The Bank of Japan raised interest rates for the first time in 17 years, yet the market didn’t experience major waves. Many people are panicking, but what we should really be concerned about is not “whether there’s a rate hike,” but “by how much.”
Carry trades, simply put, involve borrowing yen at almost zero cost and putting it into high-yield assets around the world to earn the spread. Now that the BOJ has raised rates, borrowing costs have gone up, so in theory this should trigger a sell-off—sell assets, convert to yen, pay back the loans. The logic is sound.
But the issue is the magnitude.
Trillions of dollars in yen carry trade funds are spread throughout the global financial system; this is real “shadow liquidity.” Even with the rate hike, yen interest rates are still near zero, and the US-Japan interest rate differential remains huge. Most players have no reason to rush for the exit. This round of rate hikes seems more like a tentative move, moderate in scale, with limited short-term capital repatriation. So it’s reasonable that the market is calm.
If there’s real trouble ahead, it will depend on future “dose upgrades”—if the interest rate differential narrows rapidly, then we’ll see a panic exit. When that happens, the first to be hit hardest will definitely be cryptocurrencies and highly leveraged tech stocks—these high-risk assets are most sensitive to liquidity. Only then will the broader stock market and high-yield bonds feel the impact.
My view: This rate hike is more symbolic, possibly causing some short-term volatility but unlikely to trigger a systemic crash. The real risk lies in the future pace of yen appreciation and the standoff between the Fed and the BOJ—who will blink first.
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ForkItAllDay
· 12-12 16:38
Dose escalation is the real killer move; it's just not in place yet.
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StealthDeployer
· 12-12 10:19
The dosage is not enough, this is the key point
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PortfolioAlert
· 12-12 08:11
Insufficient dosage, still the same old routine
Arbitrage will eventually need to be settled, the issue is just the timing
How this wave of cryptocurrencies will go depends on whether the US or Japan will be the first to react angrily
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Liquidated_Larry
· 12-09 20:30
Here we go again, still need to watch the next few moves.
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The rate hike is so mild, it's really not scary enough.
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Basically, we're just waiting for the interest rate spread to continue narrowing. When that happens, the crypto world will have a hard time.
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Alright, the calm now is only because the yen's interest rate is still lousy. The real test is yet to come.
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The carry trade is so huge, unwinding it slowly will still cause problems.
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Feels like this is just the beginning, not the end. There’s more drama to come.
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The US-Japan interest rate spread is still so big, why pull out? Everyone wants to take advantage of the cheap rates.
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Shadow liquidity is one of those things—once it collapses, it’s systemic. Don’t be fooled by the current calm.
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Forget it, I’ll just wait and see how the Fed responds. That’s the key.
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Crypto and tech stocks are indeed weak when it comes to resilience. If there’s a rapid rate hike this time, they’re done for.
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The word "dosage" is spot on—that’s exactly what it means.
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ForkThisDAO
· 12-09 20:28
The dosage is what really matters; just looking at the rate hike itself is meaningless. The Bank of Japan's move is a bit like testing the waters—the real killer move hasn't come yet.
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AirdropDreamer
· 12-09 20:28
Dosage is key; a small rate hike won't move the needle at all.
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What we really fear is the moment when the Japan-US interest rate gap narrows rapidly—crypto will take the first hit.
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Carry trade is just like this; at the end of the day, it's still a liquidity game. If the dosage isn't enough, just keep lying flat.
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Trillions of dollars in shadow liquidity are scattered around the world. What good is probing with a rate hike? What needs to happen will happen anyway.
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I think this round is just central banks whistling; the real storm is still ahead.
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The Japan-US interest rate gap hasn't narrowed enough, so why would big funds rush out? The logic makes sense.
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Let's see who blinks first—the Fed or the Bank of Japan. That's the real key move.
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High-leverage tech and the crypto sector are the most fragile. If capital starts to flow back, these will be the first to fall.
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Signal value > actual threat. Treat this rate hike as just an appetizer; the real main course is yet to come.
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GateUser-addcaaf7
· 12-09 20:20
It still depends on the extent of future rate hikes. Moderate rate hikes are just traps set for arbitrage trading; the real liquidation is yet to come.
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FlippedSignal
· 12-09 20:14
The word "dosage" is used perfectly here—it hits the nail on the head.
While most people are still hung up on the rate hikes themselves, the real players are already working out the timeline for narrowing interest rate spreads.
Crypto needs to be careful this time—when liquidity dries up, it's the first to take a hit.
The Bank of Japan raised interest rates for the first time in 17 years, yet the market didn’t experience major waves. Many people are panicking, but what we should really be concerned about is not “whether there’s a rate hike,” but “by how much.”
Carry trades, simply put, involve borrowing yen at almost zero cost and putting it into high-yield assets around the world to earn the spread. Now that the BOJ has raised rates, borrowing costs have gone up, so in theory this should trigger a sell-off—sell assets, convert to yen, pay back the loans. The logic is sound.
But the issue is the magnitude.
Trillions of dollars in yen carry trade funds are spread throughout the global financial system; this is real “shadow liquidity.” Even with the rate hike, yen interest rates are still near zero, and the US-Japan interest rate differential remains huge. Most players have no reason to rush for the exit. This round of rate hikes seems more like a tentative move, moderate in scale, with limited short-term capital repatriation. So it’s reasonable that the market is calm.
If there’s real trouble ahead, it will depend on future “dose upgrades”—if the interest rate differential narrows rapidly, then we’ll see a panic exit. When that happens, the first to be hit hardest will definitely be cryptocurrencies and highly leveraged tech stocks—these high-risk assets are most sensitive to liquidity. Only then will the broader stock market and high-yield bonds feel the impact.
My view: This rate hike is more symbolic, possibly causing some short-term volatility but unlikely to trigger a systemic crash. The real risk lies in the future pace of yen appreciation and the standoff between the Fed and the BOJ—who will blink first.