#ETH走势分析 Starting with 50,000, the logic behind rolling your position to make big money
Let me make it clear first: this 50,000 has to be your profit in the account; don’t even think about this if you’re in a loss. $BTC
I’ve noticed that a lot of people get scared as soon as they hear about rolling positions, always feeling like the risk is off the charts. But anyone who truly understands position management knows—if you do it right, rolling positions actually carries much less risk than randomly opening futures trades.
Here’s a specific example: open a Bitcoin position at 10,000, use 10x leverage but set it to isolated margin, and only invest 10% of your total capital as margin—that’s 5,000. What’s the real risk exposure? It’s not much different from using 1x leverage. With a 2% stop-loss, in the worst case you lose 2%, just 1,000. I’ve never understood how those who get liquidated lose all their money—even if you hit the stop-loss, at most you’ll lose this 5,000. Where does the avalanche of losses come from?
What if you get the direction right? If Bitcoin rises to 11,000, add another 10% of your total capital as a new position, again with a 2% stop-loss as a backstop. Even if you’re stopped out this round, you’ve already made 8% before. Where’s the risk? Keep up this pace, and when you catch a move like Bitcoin going to 15,000, starting with 50,000 you can basically make around 200,000. Get two such opportunities and you’re nearly at a million. Don’t listen to those people touting monthly compounding of 10% or 20%—that’s completely unreliable. Real big profits come from stacking two 10x or three 5x moves, not from slowly piling up small compounding gains.
In fact, rolling positions isn’t risky in itself; it’s actually the most rational approach in futures trading. The real risk comes from how you choose your leverage. You can roll with 10x, or with 1x; I personally usually run with 2x to 3x leverage, and I can still multiply my capital more than tenfold in good markets. If you’re especially cautious, it’s totally fine to use less than 1x leverage—that has nothing to do with the core idea of rolling positions, it’s purely about your personal risk preference.
There’s another principle I always repeat: Don’t go all-in with your crypto investments; keep four-fifths of your total capital as a reserve. For actual futures trading? Take one-tenth from your spot funds—so your futures capital is only 2% of your total holdings. With 2x or 3x leverage, only trading mainstream coins, the risk can be kept very low. Think about it: if you have a 1,000,000 account and lose 20,000, would you lose sleep over it?
I’m not saying all this to convince anyone—there’s no point in arguing. I just want to find people who agree with this trading logic to discuss and share ideas. The discussion environment is a bit chaotic right now, with all sorts of voices mixed together.
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NotFinancialAdvice
· 12-11 19:33
Sounds ideal, but the problem is that most people simply can't maintain that level of discipline...
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Rolling positions is indeed fine, but the prerequisite is that you must truly have that calm mindset; most people don't.
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So basically, it still depends on 2-3x leverage and mindset. Even the most perfect logic can't withstand a black swan event with high leverage.
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There's nothing wrong with this logic; it's just that human nature tends to throw curveballs when executing.
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Good grief, it's that same story again... Always saying the risk is small, but in reality, many people end up liquidation.
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Keeping a four-fifths reserve ratio is actually quite critical; many people fail at the all-in step.
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What you said makes sense, but I haven't seen many people truly execute a 2% stop-loss...
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Using 10x leverage with an isolated margin mode is indeed more rational than full position, but the key is still discipline.
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That's what they say, but when the market hits, who can resist expanding their position?
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Agree that no all-in, this is the most important point.
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PretendingSerious
· 12-11 07:24
The logic of rolling positions sounds comfortable, but I still think most people can't follow through. Self-discipline is the hardest part.
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CoconutWaterBoy
· 12-11 01:10
Rolling position sounds ideal, but in reality, it's always a different story — making a fortune when giving signals, but a bunch of mess-ups when operating yourself.
It sounds good, but when the market moves in the opposite direction, your mentality collapses, and your stop-loss feels like it wasn't set at all.
There's a bit of a logical problem here. Suppose you made an 8% profit earlier, and then you follow the stop-loss — your cost basis becomes exponential, and it's hard to calculate.
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DevChive
· 12-09 13:50
Sounds good, but how many can actually execute it well? Most people still go all in at the bottom and only reflect on position management after losing everything.
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GasFeeLover
· 12-09 13:44
To be honest, this theory sounds great, but I've seen too many people fail because of the phrase "I can control risk."
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MoodFollowsPrice
· 12-09 13:43
Sounds pretty nice, but I still think the key is knowing when to take profits and walk away.
Rolling positions sounds simple, but how many people can really stick to their discipline when the market suddenly turns?
To be honest, what I fear most isn’t the 2% stop loss, but the greedy mindset of wanting to keep rolling after making 8%. That’s usually where things go wrong.
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MEVHunterZhang
· 12-09 13:33
Starting with 50,000 to get 10x returns? Alright, here we go with this claim again.
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ser_we_are_early
· 12-09 13:24
It sounds good in theory, but it falls apart in practice. I’ve seen too many people who are excellent at calculations but get completely wiped out in bull traps.
#ETH走势分析 Starting with 50,000, the logic behind rolling your position to make big money
Let me make it clear first: this 50,000 has to be your profit in the account; don’t even think about this if you’re in a loss. $BTC
I’ve noticed that a lot of people get scared as soon as they hear about rolling positions, always feeling like the risk is off the charts. But anyone who truly understands position management knows—if you do it right, rolling positions actually carries much less risk than randomly opening futures trades.
Here’s a specific example: open a Bitcoin position at 10,000, use 10x leverage but set it to isolated margin, and only invest 10% of your total capital as margin—that’s 5,000. What’s the real risk exposure? It’s not much different from using 1x leverage. With a 2% stop-loss, in the worst case you lose 2%, just 1,000. I’ve never understood how those who get liquidated lose all their money—even if you hit the stop-loss, at most you’ll lose this 5,000. Where does the avalanche of losses come from?
What if you get the direction right? If Bitcoin rises to 11,000, add another 10% of your total capital as a new position, again with a 2% stop-loss as a backstop. Even if you’re stopped out this round, you’ve already made 8% before. Where’s the risk? Keep up this pace, and when you catch a move like Bitcoin going to 15,000, starting with 50,000 you can basically make around 200,000. Get two such opportunities and you’re nearly at a million. Don’t listen to those people touting monthly compounding of 10% or 20%—that’s completely unreliable. Real big profits come from stacking two 10x or three 5x moves, not from slowly piling up small compounding gains.
In fact, rolling positions isn’t risky in itself; it’s actually the most rational approach in futures trading. The real risk comes from how you choose your leverage. You can roll with 10x, or with 1x; I personally usually run with 2x to 3x leverage, and I can still multiply my capital more than tenfold in good markets. If you’re especially cautious, it’s totally fine to use less than 1x leverage—that has nothing to do with the core idea of rolling positions, it’s purely about your personal risk preference.
There’s another principle I always repeat: Don’t go all-in with your crypto investments; keep four-fifths of your total capital as a reserve. For actual futures trading? Take one-tenth from your spot funds—so your futures capital is only 2% of your total holdings. With 2x or 3x leverage, only trading mainstream coins, the risk can be kept very low. Think about it: if you have a 1,000,000 account and lose 20,000, would you lose sleep over it?
I’m not saying all this to convince anyone—there’s no point in arguing. I just want to find people who agree with this trading logic to discuss and share ideas. The discussion environment is a bit chaotic right now, with all sorts of voices mixed together.